Seven Years or Two Millennia of Tribulation?

Part 1 – The Rapture * Part 2 –The Tribulation

Part 3 –The Millennium * Part 4 – Israel

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The Tribulation

Part Two of IssuesEtc Discussion of the End Times with Dr. Kim Riddlebarger
July 10

  • The New Testament mentions a “great tribulation” in three places:
  • Matthew 24:21–Jesus prophesied that when Israel is surrounded by armies, “those who are in Judea [are to] flee to the mountains.” This happened in AD 70 when the Roman army destroyed the city and the Temple, not a future event.
  • Revelation 2:22–Jesus warns those in the church in Thyatira who practice sexual immorality, “I will throw into great tribulation.”
  • Revelation 7: 14–A great multitude “clothed in white robes… are the ones coming out of the great tribulation.”
  • Daniel 9:24-27 “The 70 Weeks” (click here for a handy-dandy chart of three different views)–Where is the break between 69th and 70th weeks? If a long break of more than 2,000 years follows the 69th week, then the 70th week is not the 70th week. Any 5th graders knows that. This is dispensational eisegesis again at its finest. They attribute the following verses – which clearly refer to Christ and his sacrificial work – to Antichrist!
  • Dan 9:24: “To finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.” Doesn’t this sound like the atoning work of Christ?
  • Dan 9:26: “An anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing.” Isn’t this the death of Christ, the Anointed One?
  • Dan 9:27: “And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering.” This is fulfilled by Christ in Matthew 26:28, “For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.” Again, the sacrifice of Christ couldn’t be any clearer; all Temple animal sacrifices ceased after his once for all sacrifice. Even worse, dispensationalists say that during the millennium, the Temple will be rebuilt and animal sacrifices will be renewed. This is utter heresy against Christ’s atoning work.
  • Dispensationalists interpret God’s promises to Abraham in Genesis 12 as exclusively for national Israel. But Jesus and all other New Testament writers reinterpret the promises of  “a great nation” as the universal kingdom of Christ (1 Pet 2:9), and “in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed” as the salvation of a multitude from all nations through his seed, Jesus Christ.
  • We’re in the tribulation period now: it’s not only seven years before the  Second Coming, but all the centuries–20 and counting–between Christ’s first and second comings.
  • How would dispensationalists teach that the church will not go through the tribulation period in East Timor, China, Saudi Arabia, India, Pakistan, etc., where there is severe persecution today?
  • “Second chance theology” during tribulation period is “goofy” theology, and contradicts Paul’s teaching that “now is the day of salvation.” This second chance teaching misleads people into thinking that they can be saved after the return of Christ.

Next week: Part 3–The Millennium

Part 1 – The Rapture * Part 2 –The Tribulation

Part 3 – The Millennium * Part 4 – Israel

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6 thoughts on “Seven Years or Two Millennia of Tribulation?”

  1. reynaldo bayona

    i just want to ask something cause the the doctrine on original sin made me confused.
    what is the real score? does the sin of adam made the next generation corrupt?
    or this doctrine is not true.
    im a A.B. theology student and please kindly answer my question.
    thanks just email me…. thanks

  2. Wow! I  might not agree with the Calvinist but Mr. Tanicala’s theory is the worst I ever read. No wonder there so many cults today. And he even had the audacity to put letters after his name……..give me a break!

  3. Dr. Tanicala,

    You are attacking a strawman. Please read the Canons of Dort or the Westminster Confession first if you desire to attack or critique Calvinism. Thanks.

  4. Eusebio Tanicala, Ph. D.
    IF DEATH IS AUTOMATICALLY PASSED ON TO OFF SPRINGS THEN LIFE SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY PASS ON TO OFF SPRINGS
    Calvinism says that Adam and Eve’s disobedience brought death to their off springs automatically. The line of reasoning is that dead men could produce only dead off springs. The dead passes on to their off springs their deadness.
    But John Calvin did not apply his line of logic on the offsprings of Abraham and Sarah who were people of faith. See Heb. 11:8-19; Romans 4:1-12; James 2:21-24. Abraham and Sarah were justified by their faith and obedience; they were friends of God, they had life in them. They were alive. The alive should pass on to their off spring their aliveness. If not, why not?
    Today, Calvinists also talk about being “born again” as taught in John 3:3-5.And Calvinists have in their midst couples who are born again, made holy by Christ’s blood when they obey. These couples (husband and wife) beget children. Do Calvinists say that born again, holy couples automatically pass on to their off springs their “born againness)? Why can’t they pass on to their children their aliveness? If not. why not?
    So you feel the faulty logic of John Calvin. Yes, he was not logical because he didn’t stick to what the Bible says. #

    1. “Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man [Adam], and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned” (Rom 5:12). This is the doctrine of original sin, Adam’s sinful nature passed on to all his descendants.

      “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us” (1 John 1:8-10). This is the doctrine of the state of a believer called simul justus et peccator — at the same time righteous and sinner.

      Adam’s sinful nature is passed on to all his descendants–all humanity. But why, do you ask, can a believer not pass on his new nature to his children? Because a believer still has this sinful nature in him, although the Spirit dwells in him. This is why a Christian still struggles with sin in our present age (Romans 7), and also why all of the New Testament writers exhort us to strive and persevere in our sanctification. He will only come to a state of sinless perfection at the consummation. Of course, when that time comes, he will not be able to pass on his sinless nature to his children, because in the age to come, there will be no marriage.

      By the way, don’t drag Calvin’s name into this discussion. Like the spies who explored Canaan in advance of the Israelites in the wilderness and who found themselves as grasshoppers compared with the giants in the Promised Land, all of us today, including all those we think are theological giants, are as theological grasshoppers compared with Calvin. And not only Calvin, but all other leaders of the Reformation such as Luther, Bullinger, Zwingli, Knox, Beza, Bucer, Hus, Ridley, Latimer, Turretin and the Westminster divines (post-Reformation).

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